When
Members Want To Use the Club Email List
bout four out of five club executives responding to a PCA
email survey in late 2006 said members should not have access to any email list
maintained by the club to communicate with other members. In addition, 72.6 percent of the respondents
said a club should not promote member discussion (positive or negative) of club
matters by email. And, 63.7 percent said
a club should not establish an internet chat room as a convenience for members
so they can talk about club issues.
A more complete account can be found in the January 2007
issue of the PCA. Complete
results of the survey can be seen in the “Surveys” section of this
website. Following are comments by some
of the respondents.
If you have a written policy regarding use of the club’s
email distribution list, would you be willing to share it with us?
- We do not share email addresses from club mailing
lists. Our members give the club
permission to send them emails before we begin sending them.
- We do not have a written policy. However, we do not provide the email
distribution list to members.
Members may elect to make that information available to other
members on the secure side of our website.
- Due to privacy regulations and laws, no
personal contact information is provided to any person for any reason.
- Our email list is considered part of our
directory. That clearly
states: “The membership list shall
be for the exclusive use of the club, its officers and duly constituted
committees, and shall not be made available or used by any person, firm or
organization for commercial purposes.”
- None of the member roster information
(including email addresses) is to be used to solicit other members. In our opinion email chat rooms and such
would violate this rule.
- The email distribution list has been provided
for the exclusive use of club management for the promotion of
club-sponsored activities, events, and pertinent news and official
correspondence as approved by the board of directors. Use for personal gain or promotion is
strictly prohibited.
- Members have access to individual email
addresses through the website. They
cannot access the list as a whole for mass email.
- This is in our member directory, which
contains the email addresses: “The
club member directory contains confidential information. The club does not distribute it to
anyone other than club members. It
is the club’s intent to protect our privacy. We insist that all members protect the
privacy of their fellow members by not making the directory information
available to nonmembers and not using the directory for any form of
solicitation.”
- The roster or email list shall be used by members
only for personal/social use and shall not be used for any other purpose.
- Members are able to display their own email
addresses on our online membership roster.
The member must “opt in” to display his email address. Otherwise the email address is not
displayed. A member can compile all
those displayed addresses to send bulk email.
- State law requires that the membership have
the right to request a mailing list if it is for club business.
- We have a broader policy regarding privacy and
communications. We do not release
any information concerning a member.
All communications must come from the president, COO or a
designated staff member.
- Not to be used for any purpose beyond personal
communication.
- No member may use or attempt to obtain any
member list for mail or email purposes.
- We allow members access to members’ emails but
not the capability without personally typing in all email addresses to
“bulk email” the members.
- We do not allow our member email address lists
to be distributed to any member for any reason.
- The membership directory, in both written and
electronic format including email addresses, is for the personal use of
the membership. The release or sale
of this directory for any purpose is strictly prohibited. Member use of this directory for
business solicitation is also strictly prohibited.
If a member of your club has contacted, or threatened to
contact other members by email to encourage opposition to a proposal by club
leaders, how did the club respond?
·
The club did
not provide an email list. The addresses
are available and the members could create their own list of addresses.
·
It is his or
her prerogative to do so, since the club does not give or share email lists.
·
We would
accept the fact that this could happen.
However, there is always as much support as there is opposition. We do not see this as a problem, but rather
an advantage to our members.
·
We did not
respond. Let them contact others.
·
The club
responded that the member of course may contact any member who has a listed
email in the directory on his own.
·
The member has
a right to contact other members but they have to obtain contact information
themselves from the club roster. If you
allow them to use the club’s distribution list it is too easy to use, which can
lead to abuse.
·
Members do
email each other to discuss club matters.
Once we learn of this happening we encourage the members to speak
directly with our general manager via telephone or personal appointment.
·
To date this
has not happened. If it would, however,
the club’s position is not to circulate the membership email roster to
anyone. On the other hand, we provide
members with a membership directory that has all email addresses within. They could create a list themselves. However, if the board found out that member
would be brought before the board.
·
We allow them
to have their voices heard. Otherwise,
they may be able to get an injunction from a judge against the project due to
having their due process denied.
·
We would not
respond because we do not give out email addresses to our members.
·
The club has
been asked several times to share our email addresses with various
members. We respond that some members
have asked that we not share their email addresses; and when we broadcast club
notices, we insure that the membership addresses are sent as “blind copies.”
·
To do so would
cause expulsion from the club.
·
The club did
not give out email addresses, telephone numbers or mailing addresses. Each member receives a roster each year with
the information that the other members want to provide. The question of privacy and using the
information in a manner not consistent with the members’ wishes must be
considered.
·
We are facing
this issue today. We have a building
project up for $16.5 million and some members want their message to be heard by
email list. On our website they have the
capability of doing this, but not in mass email format. The club has expressed that the use of our
email list is for personal communication to other members as our mailing list
has been presented to our members. Its
purpose is not to flood our members with personal opinions from individual
members positive or negative on any issue at the club. The mass email is for the club’s purpose to
distribute board actions and club activities.
·
A severe
warning would be issued to the member.
·
All member
email addresses, those who want them listed, are in our website for convenient
member-to-member communication. We will
not email blast from our club or distribute any other roster or list to any
member if it is not for official business of the club.
·
The club has
responded poorly. The board of directors
should be much more forceful in dealing with a member who has extended efforts
to engage others in a negative public relations campaign against the club and
the board.
·
This has
happened here and the club talked to the member who was emailing, asking him to
please convey the facts and not his opinion.
This was very destructive to the voting process.
·
While the club
does not give out its lists, we encourage dialogue within the membership as
this is a club for the members.
·
Have had the
request, which was declined. Advised the
member to use his own resources.
·
We provide our
members with snail-mail address lists as a courtesy, so I do not see why we
would not give them email addresses. We
have nothing to hide; and after all, this is their club.
·
We have a
conduct-detrimental-to-the-club clause in our bylaws and we would enforce it!
·
We do not
provide any list. Every member has in
his possession a club directory and also has access to the web page that has a
member directory.
·
We have no
stance as we did not nor do we disseminate that information to the membership.
General responses:
- Our website has a community board, which
allows members the opportunity to comment on anything they would
like. Comments are encouraged to be
of a positive nature and are posted for three weeks. Unfortunately, the discussions are
limited to about 15 to 20 members and tend to be an area to vent and
create rumors. In theory it is a
great idea, but in reality it is something that makes one think elimination of the community board would make
more sense.
- Our members love to get mass emails from the club, and 90 percent of our members consent to having
their email addresses on our website for use by all members.
- We publish our members’ email addresses in the
annual club handbook, although response by members to our annual request
for addresses is under 50 percent.
Participation is mainly by younger members and one imagines that,
like the published home addresses, members envision occasional abuses, or
inappropriate uses of the email addresses.
- Currently we post email addresses in our
roster for members to contact each other.
We treat it the same as the members having access to each other’s
telephone numbers.
- If members fear that an email address provided
to the club may be used to receive unsolicited emails, they are much less
likely to give the club the email address in the first place.
- Membership list by address (labels) or email,
etc., only permitted for director candidates during campaigning. Not permitted for any other use. We do publish emails in the club
directory (if advised by the member), so one could build his own list.
- Members are given the option of publishing
their information in the roster.
Email is included, but we also ask if they want the weekly
reminders or wish to opt out. All
email addresses are blind boxed so no one can see the other addresses in
the membership.
- The club should allow opposition to its
policy, but providing a mailing list or email list is counterproductive.
- People receive enough emails from the club
informing of club events and general information. Letting anyone have access to the
database would hurt the good information currently being sent out.
- Our club directory has many email as well as
snail mail addresses. If a member
wants to contact other members, the addresses are there for him or
her. I would not send out a set of
mailing labels, so why email addresses?
Many members have supplied the club with their email addresses, but
asked that they not be published; ditto with snail mail addresses. We are very cautious approaching this subject.
- There are a couple of points to support email
access to all members: 1) Most
clubs want to know what their members think about certain issues and the
only forum available in the past has been meetings at the club, which
usually don’t get enough attendance unless it is a large expenditure issue
or something of the same magnitude.
2) Our constitution guarantees the right to freedom of speech. Why should a club do otherwise? You will
get criticism and if you get enough of it, you should probably listen.
- The club’s handbook and member roster are
available on our secure, password-protected, members-only site. Each member completes his own contact
information form and chooses whether or not to share that profile with
other members. The personal contact
information of our club members is proprietary. Members are reminded to use it for
social purposes only.
- We have used email increasingly for about the
last eight years and are now using it as our default method of
communication. That is, a member
must request to receive correspondence via regular mail. From the beginning we determined that
the club must control the flow of information. If a member wishes to develop his own
discussion group, he may do so; but the club website is not an “open
form.” Our policy, although
unwritten, has been in practice since the inception of our website in 1998
and remains unchanged and unchallenged.
- In the past several members wanted mailing
labels in order to contact the general membership asking for contributions
for a charity. Where this was a
good cause, our members were contacted at home, work and through direct
mailings. They did not need or want
another contact point.
- We may be publishing the members’ email
addresses in our proposed website.
Each member may opt out of having his email address listed along
with other information. It will not
be a broadcast list. The member
would have to compile his own list as we “bcc” the list and do not list
the emails addresses.
- We use email to send monthly statements, to
advertise our in-house events, to alert members to weather
conditions. We send our newsletter
to members via email. We find that
members are very receptive to informational emails. We do not use email for any
controversial discussions.
- Communications utilizing addresses (email or
otherwise) should be limited to social and recreational use only, hence in
line with the charter of the club, defining what the club is all about.
- Everybody is tired of emails that come from
solicitors or advertisers. If my
member email list were made available to the members we would inevitably
start having something like this happen and then the members would not
enjoy our using it for another means of management and board
communication.
- Our club is owned/operated by the homeowners’
association. As such, it must
comply with civil codes which now require us to offer to our members an
“opt out” form whereby they can specify that we not allow the
publication of their names, addresses and other personal information (such
as email addresses). Works great!
- The list of email addresses is available to members
for use in the transaction of club-related activities between members only
with the express consent of the affected member. This is best exemplified in inter- and
intra-committee correspondence and notification of specific athletic and
social events. Members may choose
at their discretion to list their respective email addresses in the club
directory.
- Although we encourage members to use the
“bulletin board” section of our website to contact each other individually
or post issues or ideas they would like feedback on, we do not make our
broadcast list accessible to anyone other than the club itself. If members were emailed by other members
about club issues or problems, many of them would remove their email addresses
from out database in order to avoid such emails.
- We allow our members, on their annual roster
update form, to designate whether or not they wish to have their email
addresses published in the membership roster. If a member wished to collect email
addresses from the printed roster to create an email distribution list,
there is no current rule forbidding it. However, there is a rule forbidding the
use of the roster information for solicitations.
- Our members have access to all of our members’
email addresses through our online directory. If they choose to create their own files
with this list, we have no control.
To obtain our mass email files they would have to have
administrator access to the website, which would not happen. We do have a disclaimer on our website:
“This membership directory is intended for the personal use of our members
and is not to be used for solicitation of any kind.” But who is to stop them?
- If one of our members used the list for
commercial purposes I would hope our board would deal with that member in
the harshest manner. This is their
club; let them help to make it a better place.
- In 2007 we will publish members’ email
addresses in our annual
guidebook/roster for the first time. Members are free to communicate with one
another. However, blast emails should
be reserved for official use by authorized officers and staff.
- I think it is a slippery slope, and as much as
we talk about the importance of communication in clubs, it can
backfire with something as powerful as an email listing. The simple fact is that you have no
control over what it might be used for, and to what extent a member who
receives it might be offended that his privacy has been given away.
- I think a club’s membership may have a
profound impact on the topic. The
club I manage suffers from many divisions in the membership, promulgated
by a non-selective membership process being in place for many years. If a club did not have this problem, I
would be more supporting of this type of access and communication.